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	<title>Comments on: Does Yelp Own More Local Search Market Share Than SuperPages.com?</title>
	<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/</link>
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		<title>by: BMS</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-81958</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have had a very poor business experience with "Supermedia".  I don't want to have to pay you to listen to all of the many errors that they have made.  I am still trying to get them to reimburse me for $700 of over-charges.  This has been going on for months.  Please post this review to as many review sites as possible:

I decided to take a much closer look at our marketing efforts.  One of these efforts included the decision to try "Superpages.com."  I was given plenty of promises and even decided to have them produce a short video for our www/superpages.com ad.  I never post reviews but this one might help others from making the same mistake.  

My main contact rep was Eden Pond.  This was nothing but a game to him.  The culture at Supermedia (the entity that handles Superpages.com) is callous.   Mr. Pond and Supermedia stole $700 from me.  Looks like I have to file a claim or something.  

I have since cancelled my account and I will spend those ad budget dollars at Google or Dex.  I have spent 200 hours dealing with Superpages.  Trust me - run.  You don't want to waste money and time here.  And how many "clicks" to our website in the last 6 months?  About 10.  And it isn't that they called us instead.  Superpages.com didn't even list our phone number!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a very poor business experience with &#8220;Supermedia&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t want to have to pay you to listen to all of the many errors that they have made.  I am still trying to get them to reimburse me for $700 of over-charges.  This has been going on for months.  Please post this review to as many review sites as possible:</p>
<p>I decided to take a much closer look at our marketing efforts.  One of these efforts included the decision to try &#8220;Superpages.com.&#8221;  I was given plenty of promises and even decided to have them produce a short video for our www/superpages.com ad.  I never post reviews but this one might help others from making the same mistake.  </p>
<p>My main contact rep was Eden Pond.  This was nothing but a game to him.  The culture at Supermedia (the entity that handles Superpages.com) is callous.   Mr. Pond and Supermedia stole $700 from me.  Looks like I have to file a claim or something.  </p>
<p>I have since cancelled my account and I will spend those ad budget dollars at Google or Dex.  I have spent 200 hours dealing with Superpages.  Trust me - run.  You don&#8217;t want to waste money and time here.  And how many &#8220;clicks&#8221; to our website in the last 6 months?  About 10.  And it isn&#8217;t that they called us instead.  Superpages.com didn&#8217;t even list our phone number!
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		<title>by: How Was Google Planning To Leverage The Yelp Brand?</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-75781</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-75781</guid>
					<description>[...] Aaron makes an important point regarding Google&#8217;s lack of ethics&#8211;how Google is abusing their universal search results to spam searchers with YouTube results.  He goes on to make the case that Google could repeat this type of behavior with additional acquisitions such as Yelp, stating: &#8220;&#8230;as soon as Google gets a market dominant position, you can bet on them locking it down to enhance ad revenues. The secret search relevancy algorithms, AdWords ad quality score, using AdWords rebates to push Google Checkout, always-on search personalization (even when logged out), mystery meat payout rates to AdSense publishing partners, universal search algorithms that allow them to arbitrarily promote their own websites, YouTube cloaking, etc etc etc&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Aaron makes an important point regarding Google&#8217;s lack of ethics&#8211;how Google is abusing their universal search results to spam searchers with YouTube results.  He goes on to make the case that Google could repeat this type of behavior with additional acquisitions such as Yelp, stating: &#8220;&#8230;as soon as Google gets a market dominant position, you can bet on them locking it down to enhance ad revenues. The secret search relevancy algorithms, AdWords ad quality score, using AdWords rebates to push Google Checkout, always-on search personalization (even when logged out), mystery meat payout rates to AdSense publishing partners, universal search algorithms that allow them to arbitrarily promote their own websites, YouTube cloaking, etc etc etc&#8221; [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Tom Crandall</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-75236</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-75236</guid>
					<description>Monica,

I agree with your points.  While I believe the local online marketing/advertising space is quite fragmented, Google is no doubt the driver of change and innovation.  Wide adoption of "online" by SMB's is gaining tremendous momentum.  The more turn-key and targeted the solution, the easier it is for SMB's to participate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica,</p>
<p>I agree with your points.  While I believe the local online marketing/advertising space is quite fragmented, Google is no doubt the driver of change and innovation.  Wide adoption of &#8220;online&#8221; by SMB&#8217;s is gaining tremendous momentum.  The more turn-key and targeted the solution, the easier it is for SMB&#8217;s to participate.
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		<title>by: Monica Ho</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-75164</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-75164</guid>
					<description>Hi Tom -

I think the local portals growth in marketshare (41 to 51% increase) has to do in large part to the changes Google has been making to how some of these local results appear in the SERPs.  We saw a pretty significant increase when Google expanded the "one-box" area from 3 listings to 10 (which is now 7).  Now with our recent study the surge seems to be attributed to Google's ability to now show local results for general searches which seem to have local intent.  No geo-modifier is  necessary to see these local maps results now which in the past (just a year ago) this was necessary.  

Regarding the trust factor of advertising, our study did not measure this.  Gloribel's article was referencing the Forrester study.  I do agree with you though that you really can't compare a lot of these as their methodologies and base audiences measured varied pretty dramatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom -</p>
<p>I think the local portals growth in marketshare (41 to 51% increase) has to do in large part to the changes Google has been making to how some of these local results appear in the SERPs.  We saw a pretty significant increase when Google expanded the &#8220;one-box&#8221; area from 3 listings to 10 (which is now 7).  Now with our recent study the surge seems to be attributed to Google&#8217;s ability to now show local results for general searches which seem to have local intent.  No geo-modifier is  necessary to see these local maps results now which in the past (just a year ago) this was necessary.  </p>
<p>Regarding the trust factor of advertising, our study did not measure this.  Gloribel&#8217;s article was referencing the Forrester study.  I do agree with you though that you really can&#8217;t compare a lot of these as their methodologies and base audiences measured varied pretty dramatically.
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		<title>by: 30+ Online Business Directories To Ramp Up Your Local Search Marketing Campaign</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-74607</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-74607</guid>
					<description>[...] Yelp was founded in 2004 and surpassed the IYP&#8217;s in traffic earlier this year. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Yelp was founded in 2004 and surpassed the IYP&#8217;s in traffic earlier this year. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Tom Crandall</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-74282</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-74282</guid>
					<description>Monica,

Thank you for taking the time to comment and elaborating on some of the measurement details involved in the study.  I am interested in the methodology used to determine local business search volume to bolster my comprehension.

What factors do you believe have catalyzed the recent trend towards Local Portal search (versus IYP search) increasing from 40% to 51% year-over-year?

I raise the point about IYP bias based upon TMP’s legacy as “the world's largest yellow pages advertising agency,” and I understand your organization’s relationships with yellow page publishers and advertisers run far and wide.  In addition, &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://gesterling.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/what-medium-is-most-trusted-in-local/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Greg Sterling&lt;/a&gt; recently cited various surveys which portend to establish conflicting data about the most trusted sources of advertising (I know print yellow pages were not referenced in the other surveys).  I do believe the perception of trusted advertisers may swing erratically among various demo’s and depending upon how survey questions are posed.

It was &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.searchperspective.com/2009/11/17/yellow-pages-are-the-most-trusted-local-search-source/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Gloribel’s article&lt;/a&gt; that inspired me to append this post underscoring who I trust for local business search results (online) between Yelp and one of the IYP’s, SuperPages.

In the end I am searching for the most profitable local online advertising solutions for my clients and audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica,</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to comment and elaborating on some of the measurement details involved in the study.  I am interested in the methodology used to determine local business search volume to bolster my comprehension.</p>
<p>What factors do you believe have catalyzed the recent trend towards Local Portal search (versus IYP search) increasing from 40% to 51% year-over-year?</p>
<p>I raise the point about IYP bias based upon TMP’s legacy as “the world&#8217;s largest yellow pages advertising agency,” and I understand your organization’s relationships with yellow page publishers and advertisers run far and wide.  In addition, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://gesterling.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/what-medium-is-most-trusted-in-local/" rel="nofollow">Greg Sterling</a> recently cited various surveys which portend to establish conflicting data about the most trusted sources of advertising (I know print yellow pages were not referenced in the other surveys).  I do believe the perception of trusted advertisers may swing erratically among various demo’s and depending upon how survey questions are posed.</p>
<p>It was <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.searchperspective.com/2009/11/17/yellow-pages-are-the-most-trusted-local-search-source/" rel="nofollow">Gloribel’s article</a> that inspired me to append this post underscoring who I trust for local business search results (online) between Yelp and one of the IYP’s, SuperPages.</p>
<p>In the end I am searching for the most profitable local online advertising solutions for my clients and audience.
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		<title>by: Monica Ho</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-74280</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-74280</guid>
					<description>You raise a question to the comparability of the TMPDM/comScore Local Search study to data from Google Trends in your above post. As you suggest, these reports really are apples and oranges. The TMPDM/comScore study focuses on the local business search activity on the sites included, while the Google Trends and Compete data displays total visitation trends.  Furthermore, comScore IYP/Local Search measurement excludes non-business search activity on the sites, such as people, map, car, and video searches.  While these other facets to local directory sites are extremely useful and clearly garner significant traffic to the sites, the TMPDM/comScore study hones in on local business searching exclusively. Within the online local search universe, the study is not biased towards IYPs, as it highlights the recent trend towards Local Portal search (web search with local intent) versus IYP search – showing Local Portal search increasing from 40% to 51% year-over-year. 

I would be happy to provide you with more information about the 2009 study and the methodology used if you are interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise a question to the comparability of the TMPDM/comScore Local Search study to data from Google Trends in your above post. As you suggest, these reports really are apples and oranges. The TMPDM/comScore study focuses on the local business search activity on the sites included, while the Google Trends and Compete data displays total visitation trends.  Furthermore, comScore IYP/Local Search measurement excludes non-business search activity on the sites, such as people, map, car, and video searches.  While these other facets to local directory sites are extremely useful and clearly garner significant traffic to the sites, the TMPDM/comScore study hones in on local business searching exclusively. Within the online local search universe, the study is not biased towards IYPs, as it highlights the recent trend towards Local Portal search (web search with local intent) versus IYP search – showing Local Portal search increasing from 40% to 51% year-over-year. </p>
<p>I would be happy to provide you with more information about the 2009 study and the methodology used if you are interested.
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		<title>by: Tom Crandall</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-73964</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for commenting, Bob.  I do believe the ratio of actual local searches to total visits is higher for IYP's compared to more interactive directories like Yelp and Citysearch.

What I would like to understand, is how the TMP study determines that SuperPages had 7.5 X the local search share while garnering half the visits of Yelp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting, Bob.  I do believe the ratio of actual local searches to total visits is higher for IYP&#8217;s compared to more interactive directories like Yelp and Citysearch.</p>
<p>What I would like to understand, is how the TMP study determines that SuperPages had 7.5 X the local search share while garnering half the visits of Yelp.
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		<title>by: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.semreportcard.com/does-yelp-own-more-local-search-market-share-than-superpagescom/#comment-73962</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You said it yourself, 'Yelp is more socially oriented.' Yelp visitors may be checking reviews of others while Superpages users are search driven. IYPs are similar to the paper phone books in that users search for information. It makes sense that Superpages has a higher "Search" share, while it may have fewer unique visitors based on info you've found.

Superpages is working to become "stickier", but as long as end users continue searching it is still a necessary place for businesses to be listed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it yourself, &#8216;Yelp is more socially oriented.&#8217; Yelp visitors may be checking reviews of others while Superpages users are search driven. IYPs are similar to the paper phone books in that users search for information. It makes sense that Superpages has a higher &#8220;Search&#8221; share, while it may have fewer unique visitors based on info you&#8217;ve found.</p>
<p>Superpages is working to become &#8220;stickier&#8221;, but as long as end users continue searching it is still a necessary place for businesses to be listed.
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